A visibly shaken O'Reilly appeared to have been caught off guard by a blistering attack by Franken in the midst of a usually sedate booksellers' luncheon in Los Angeles on Saturday.
Franken, author of the forthcoming book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them," accused O'Reilly of puffing up his credentials as the former host of the TV news magazine "Inside Edition." O'Reilly had claimed the show won a Peabody award when in reality it had only won a Polk.
"Donít you think itís odd you got it wrong about a journalism award?" Franken said to audience laughter!
"This guy accuses me of being a liar, ladies and gentlemen, on national television," O'Reilly told the audience. "He's a vicious - and that's with a capital V - a person who's blinded by ideology."
The third member of the panel, Molly Ivins, author of Bushwacked, just shook her head. When Franken tried to interrupt, O'Reilly went ballistic. "Hey, shut up! You had your 35 minutes - shut up!" he shouted, visibly furious.
"We're supposed to be on here for 15 minutes - this idiot goes 35."
"This isn't your show, Bill," Franken shot back creating an uproar from the crowd. During the exchange Franken said it's time for Liberals "to stop taking it" and to call conservatives on their lack of civility. That set off O'Reilly. "You write a book called Liar, Liar and you talk about civility. Unbelievable."
"That's not the title," Franken said, "but it's close." O'Reilly bolted from the stage before the event concluded and made a beeline for a group of fans - far from Franken.
Poor Bill, I guess its a lot harder to debate when you cant shut off the other guys microphone!
LiberalArtists.com is in search of a complete transcript if anyone has one or better yet a video of this exchange or of Al's interview with booktv afterwards please e-mail us at LiberalArtists@LiberalArtists.com
Neatoman saves the day! Al Franken also speaks about the Liberal Radio Network he wants to be a part of! So definately watch this video it requires RealPlayer but its worth it!
I saw that....
Written on 06/09/03 at 08:45:16 PST by gordon
I'm no fan of Bill O Rielly but Al was way out of line. Whose the real angry and petty man. Al pointing out an meaningless error about what award Bill recieved. Very petty indeed.
Written on 06/09/03 at 22:25:57 PST by Admin
You mean as opposed to O'Reilly calling Franken an idiot. Bill can dish it out but he cant take it? I found it funny that Bill tried to defend his "journalistic integrity" yet couldn't even get the name of Al's book right. Perfect example of how the rightwing speaks without thinking first. Bill deserved every punch.
C-Span Show of the Year
Written on 06/13/03 at 10:19:54 PST by DGLedden
Like many others, I have been waiting to see and/or hear O'Reilly in a position where he does not control the flow of the discussion. Well I guess we now see he is a popgun intellectual with a single pop. Al as usual has great knowledge, information and truth at his finger tips, while Bill has a single idot pop and is done.
I almost felt sorry for Bill. He reminded me of a little boy sitting in a corner sucking his thumb ready to cry as Al kept saying "spin on this".
WHO doesn't understand irony Al?
Written on 06/18/03 at 10:44:09 PST by RichWatch
"Donít you think itís odd you got it wrong about a journalism award?" a smug Franken said to a smiling audience.
Unfortunately the line doesn't make any sense because O'Reilly didn't journalistically report on his winning the award. Making a mistake in journalism about a journalism award is indeed "odd" or ironic, but that's not what happened. O'Reilly just made passing comments on the award and never featured it in any kind of report.
Therefore Franken is displaying a lack of understanding for irony when he simultaneously accuses conservatives for doing the same. A hypocrite once again, but it doesn't matter to the liberal sheeple as I've seen this line held high on at least 7 websites discussing the expo and Frankens supposed KO on O'Reilly.
Not a one of them took the time to think for just a moment to realize how foolish they're really being.
Nice O'Lielly Impression.
Written on 07/08/03 at 00:06:30 PST by Admin
First off O'Lielly has made a living interupting people so he is the hypocrite for complaining when someone else does it to him.
He did in fact journalistically report his "winning a peabody" on serveral occasions. As the interview with Franken below explains in full detail and I'm sure you will find in his new book due out in October which is supposed to site sources.
Perhaps if you knew the whole story first instead of believing whatever Bill O'Lielly says you wouldn't make an ass of yourself on other peoples websites!
A sample of the interview...
<i>"Whenever he was asked about Inside Edition and it being sort of a tabloid show, O'Reilly would indignantly say that they had won two Peabody Awards. "Who says we're a tabloid show?" And O'Reilly would offer as proof the Peabody Awards that Inside Edition had supposedly won. And he did this on a number of occasions. I got through watching him once on C-SPAN and then went researching on Nexis. I just followed it up because I couldn't believe that Inside Edition had won a Peabody. And I did the research. And, of course, they hadn't won any Peabody Award.
I thought I would call O'Reilly, and that way he could stop saying the wrong thing, which any journalist would be embarrassed about. Instead of being grateful that I had called him, he just got angry. Well it turns out that Inside Edition had won a "Polk" Award a year after he left. And so he got very, very angry and said, "Go ahead Ė go after me, Al." And so I just thought that it'd be fun to do.
I gave the story to Lloyd Grove at the Washington Post, who called O'Reilly. O'Reilly sort of said, "Well, all I did was mix up a Polk and a Peabody, and Al has this jihad against me," et cetera. Now that's not necessarily worth writing about, but then I discovered that about a week later Robert Reno at Newsday decided to do a column about the fact that O'Reilly had claimed on several occasions to have won Peabodies and hadn't.
O'Reilly then attacked Rob Reno in the most vitriolic way, saying, basically "I never said I won a Peabody. This is a total fabrication. The man's a liar," et cetera, et cetera. And that sort of seems pathological to me, or Bill O'Reilly just felt that he could get away with it. It's sort of emblematic of him.
So I thought that was the example of his lying that I could use at the Book Expo, because my book isn't about him. It's about the whole right-wing media, and how it affects the mainstream media. I also focus on Bush and his administration -- who do a lot of lying -- and how a right-wing media has allowed them to get away with a lot of stuff that, in a different media environment, they probably wouldn't be able to get away with."</i>
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